What happens when the career ends, the children are grown, the old obligations loosen their grip, and suddenly nobody is handing you instructions for what comes next?
That’s where this conversation with Ilona went.
We talked about the conditioning women carry into retirement, our obsession with finding a “purpose,” learning to trust our own intuition again, creativity, aging, gray hair, bad decisions, good instincts, and why listening to that little inner nudge may matter more now than ever.
We also wandered into Substack, Breakthrough, my rather colorful history, and why I believe women at this stage of life have an extraordinary opportunity to stop living by rules they never consciously chose.
Ilona called me her mentor, which still makes me grin.
Mostly, though, this is two women talking about the enormous, largely unwritten territory ahead of us.
We have a future.
And perhaps the most interesting question now is: What do we want to do with it?
If this conversation stirred something in you, Breakthrough is where we keep talking about it.
Every week, women gather with me to talk honestly about what comes after the old roles, the old expectations, and the old instructions about what retirement is supposed to look like. There is no course to complete and no commitment to attend every week. Come when you want. Step away when you need to. Come back when you’re ready.
It is simply a place to be with other women who are breaking through the noise and figuring out what makes life feel satisfying now.
Breakthrough is included with a paid subscription to The Daily RE-Wire.
And through September 30, an annual membership is 20% off.
If you’ve been wondering what comes next, you don’t have to figure it out alone.
Thank you Lisa Garvey, Corie Feiner, Larry Ousley, Michele Wood, TammyLynn, and many others for tuning into my live video with Ilona Goanos! Join me for my next live video in the app.













